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Old 07-26-2010, 11:24 PM
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I need a PC. I play CS:S, 1.6, MW2, BC2.

Desktop vs Laptop
i3/i5 dual core vs i5/i7 quad core
nvidia card
dual channel vs triple channel ram
SSD vs Raptor vs 7200
CRT vs 120hz LCD

PS - Macs suck for gaming
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:08 AM
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Cases:

- Newegg.com - Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

- Newegg.com - Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Steel Full Tower Computer Case Colorshift Fans VL200K1W2Z

- Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Power Supplies

- Newegg.com - CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

- Newegg.com - CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Mother Board 1 + Ram + CPU

- Newegg.com - MSI Big Bang Trinergy LGA 1156 Intel P55 / NVIDIA NF200 ATX Intel Motherboard

- Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK

- Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760

- Newegg.com - ZALMAN CNPS8000A 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink

Mother Board 2 + Ram + CPU

- Newegg.com - ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

- Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1333C9

- Newegg.com - Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930

- Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler

Thermal Compound For CPU

- Newegg.com - Arctic Silver Ceramique Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease

Hard Drive

- Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD10000LSRTL 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive

Video Cards

- Newegg.com - MSI N250GTS TwinFrozr 1G OC GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

- Newegg.com - EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

- Newegg.com - EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Misc. Items

- Newegg.com - ASUS DVD-E818A6T/BLK/B/G Black 18X SATA DVD-ROM Drive - Bulk

- Case fans depending on what case you get.

- Blue-ray player/burner, DVD burner.

- Fan controllers and LED's if you want.
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:15 AM
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:43 AM
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It's a mystery to me why people buy macs for anything not related to school work.
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:49 AM
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It's a mystery to me why people buy macs for anything not related to school work.
this, its because of the 0.2% of mac users that want to game that broke source
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Old 07-27-2010, 09:38 AM
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Cases:

- Newegg.com - Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

- Newegg.com - Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Steel Full Tower Computer Case Colorshift Fans VL200K1W2Z

- Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Power Supplies

- Newegg.com - CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

- Newegg.com - CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Mother Board 1 + Ram + CPU

- Newegg.com - MSI Big Bang Trinergy LGA 1156 Intel P55 / NVIDIA NF200 ATX Intel Motherboard

- Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK

- Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760

- Newegg.com - ZALMAN CNPS8000A 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink

Mother Board 2 + Ram + CPU

- Newegg.com - ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

- Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1333C9

- Newegg.com - Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930

- Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler

Thermal Compound For CPU

- Newegg.com - Arctic Silver Ceramique Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease

Hard Drive

- Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD10000LSRTL 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive

Video Cards

- Newegg.com - MSI N250GTS TwinFrozr 1G OC GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

- Newegg.com - EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

- Newegg.com - EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Misc. Items

- Newegg.com - ASUS DVD-E818A6T/BLK/B/G Black 18X SATA DVD-ROM Drive - Bulk

- Case fans depending on what case you get.

- Blue-ray player/burner, DVD burner.

- Fan controllers and LED's if you want.
overall that's not bad, but for the graphics card with that kind of build you might consider a hd5850/5870 depending on budget
gts250 blows, and 460 must be 1gb because 768mb blows

forget about socket 1366 which will be dieing as soon as intel releases socket 2011 for sandy bridge (thanks for the 10 sockets you left behind faggots), go for the 1156 which will probably last a bit longer and is overall less expensive

or you can go on am3, the phenom II X6 offer tremendous price/performance value, they are really futureproof and you can build a great rig for cheap

for the hard drive you might wanna get a sata 3.0 6gb/s hard drive (western digital caviar black 1tb 64mb/sata3.0 is a complete rape, got it and it owns)
and if you can afford it, get a good ssd for your system which will go alot faster, but that means to be mandatory using windows 7 which is the only os to support trim (that will make your ssd performances last over time and not become shitty after 3 monthes)

for the psu, a 650/750W will be WAY MORE than enough even for a crossfire/sli, make sure to pick a good brand (corsair, fractal, antec, seasonic, enermax, cooler master, thermaltake - not some shitty unknown chinese shit that will burn your computer after 1 week like advance, lc power, heden or whatever), 80 plus is a must have, you will be sure to have a good and reliable psu and you will save money on your electricity bill and finally you may consider modular power supplies since they will prevent your case from being a clusterfuck of cables

for the case pick the one you like the most, they depend on your budget, if you can afford some big tower top quality cases (atcs 840, 800d, lian li cases) they are truely awesome, if you can't go for the lower price range and look at antec, cooler master and thermaltake cases
pick a big enough case to have space for the airflow and your graphic card length, and make sure to have good cable management possibilities and get at least 5 fans in it (generally 2x 120/140mm front, 1x 120/140mm back, 1x 120/140mm bottom and 1/2x 120/140mm top)

finally for the cooling if you can afford it go for the noctua dh-14 which just RAPES any aircooling that exists, or go for the h50, a simple watercooling loop made by corsair which gives super good temperatures and silence and equals the performances of a great aircooling
ofc you can go for a custom watercooling for your entire pc, but that costs hell of alot
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Old 07-27-2010, 09:50 AM
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overall that's not bad, but for the graphics card with that kind of build you might consider a hd5850/5870 depending on budget
gts250 blows, and 460 must be 1gb because 768mb blows

forget about socket 1366 which will be dieing as soon as intel releases socket 2011 for sandy bridge (thanks for the 10 sockets you left behind faggots), go for the 1156 which will probably last a bit longer and is overall less expensive

or you can go on am3, the phenom II X6 offer tremendous price/performance value, they are really futureproof and you can build a great rig for cheap

for the hard drive you might wanna get a sata 3.0 6gb/s hard drive (western digital caviar black 1tb 64mb/sata3.0 is a complete rape, got it and it owns)
and if you can afford it, get a good ssd for your system which will go alot faster, but that means to be mandatory using windows 7 which is the only os to support trim (that will make your ssd performances last over time and not become shitty after 3 monthes)

for the psu, a 650/750W will be WAY MORE than enough even for a crossfire/sli, make sure to pick a good brand (corsair, fractal, antec, seasonic, enermax, cooler master, thermaltake - not some shitty unknown chinese shit that will burn your computer after 1 week like advance, lc power, heden or whatever), 80 plus is a must have, you will be sure to have a good and reliable psu and you will save money on your electricity bill and finally you may consider modular power supplies since they will prevent your case from being a clusterfuck of cables

for the case pick the one you like the most, they depend on your budget, if you can afford some big tower top quality cases (atcs 840, 800d, lian li cases) they are truely awesome, if you can't go for the lower price range and look at antec, cooler master and thermaltake cases
pick a big enough case to have space for the airflow and your graphic card length, and make sure to have good cable management possibilities and get at least 5 fans in it (generally 2x 120/140mm front, 1x 120/140mm back, 1x 120/140mm bottom and 1/2x 120/140mm top)

finally for the cooling if you can afford it go for the noctua dh-14 which just RAPES any aircooling that exists, or go for the h50, a simple watercooling loop made by corsair which gives super good temperatures and silence and equals the performances of a great aircooling
ofc you can go for a custom watercooling for your entire pc, but that costs hell of alot

this wasnt for me, in his post he said core i5/i7 and he also said nvidia graphics card, thats the only reason i went with those.

personally i would get an amd phenom II also along with a 5850 / 5870.

plus i did this at like 6 - 7am without getting any sleep for like 2 days so yeah its all cool.
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:17 AM
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I need a PC. I play CS:S, 1.6, MW2, BC2.

Desktop vs Laptop
i3/i5 dual core vs i5/i7 quad core
nvidia card
dual channel vs triple channel ram
SSD vs Raptor vs 7200
CRT vs 120hz LCD

PS - Macs suck for gaming
so i just told you some good things to buy but to answer your questions:
- desktop (upgrades, price, longevity)
- quad core, forget dual cores nowadays
- performance difference between dual and triple is very low, doesn't justify -the fact of getting on 1366 which will die soon anyways
- ssd is way better than raptors, and i as i previously said some 7k2 sata 6gb/s are really good
- lcd 120hz if you can afford it, in terms of performance crt is still better but the comfort of an lcd is really superior
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:22 AM
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this, its because of the 0.2% of mac users that want to game that broke source
not gunna lie bro 75% of your posts make zero sense
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:46 AM
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not gunna lie bro 75% of your posts make zero sense
yeah this one didn't come out quite right, but if 75% of them dont make sense I think you might have downs bro
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